UrduEditor, An Urdu Notepad
This post contains the following sections
Introduction
Using UrduEditor
Where is the on-screen keyboard?
Sending Urdu Emails
Posting to Yahoo and Google Groups
Development
Futher Development
Download
Feedback
References
Introduction
With this post I am presenting you the UrduEditor, a Notepad like application especially tailored for editing Urdu text. You can think of it as a souped-up Notepad, a stripped down Unipad or whatever. After developing the web-based Urdu editor (I will call it Urdu Webpad from now on) I thought of developing a native windows version of a similar utility which I call UrduEditor. Since then I have been working on this idea. The progress has been very slow since I have been extremely busy. I do not have time even to add and test the tiniest of features. There is still a lot of unfinished functionality. I have no choice but to release a version and declare it as beta. I am also providing the source code of the UrduEditor application under GPL. Everybody is encouraged to make changes and add features to the UrduEditor. I am also ready to change the license from GPL to some other license if somebody finds it too restrictive.
The UrduEditor works in a way similar to that of Urdu Webpad. It is also capable of saving and loading Urdu text files. The Urdu text files are stored in UTF-8 format. Although the Urdu text files are plain text files, these are saved with a .uxt extension. This helps in identifying the Urdu text files in the windows file explorer and these also have shell association with the UrduEditor application i.e. double clicking on these files opens these in the UrduEditor application. The UrduEditor can even print, well, sort of. The problem is that the UrduEditor relies on the basic printing functionality of the MFC CEditView class. As a result the print-preview looks horrible and the printing is done left-aligned. I did not delve into the inner workings of the MFC/Windows printing mechanism. One solution would have been to use the CRichEditView class. That also would have meant a major re-write of the application. If there is anybody out there willing to augment the printing functionality of the UrduEditor application, they are most welcome to do it. One interesting feature of the UrduEditor is saving the Urdu text in html format. This html is of very primitive nature i.e. full of font tags and without any style. The reason why I chose this form of html was that I intended to use it for sending Urdu emails and this kind of html is most likely to be correctly displayed by any mail-client supporting html-mail.
At the moment UrduEditor uses the Urdu Naskh Asiatype font with a fixed point size. I will try to release a version soon that will allow selection of other Urdu fonts and point sizes. The keyboard mapping is similar to that of Urdu Webpad, which in turn mimics the keyboard mapping provided in the Inpage Urdu composing software.
I have also customized the Find and Replace dialogs to easily search and replace Urdu text. Figure 1 shows the main UrduEditor application window. Figure 2 illustrates the use of some toolbar buttons in UrduEditor.
Figure 1 : UrduEditor application
Figure 2 : UrduEditor’s Toolbar
Where is the on-screen keyboard?
This is probably the most glaring omission from the current release. I will try to provide an on-screen keyboard soon for aiding in entering Urdu text. Meanwhile the Windows 2000 and Windows XP users can use the on-screen keyboard provided with the standard windows installation.
An editor sending emails? Well, why not? I had an idea about sending Urdu emails but was too lazy to develop an extra application for that. I found out that the most feasible way of sending Urdu text based emails is sending it as html-mail. There are arguments about the security concerns when receiving html-mail but I still think that it is indispensable.
I wanted to incorporate html-mail functionality without relying on the Microsoft Outlook’s object libraries. I looked around for a c++ class that could provide a thorough encapsulation of the SMTP-protocol. The best open source class that I found was CPJNSMTPConnection written by P.J. Naughter. In fact the send mail dialog is also stolen from the sample application provided with the above-mentioned class. Figure 3 shows the send mail dialog.
Figure 3 : Send mail dialog
Some configuration is necessary before actually sending mails. As shown in the figure, the mail server name and the port number has to be specified. The mail server can also be a POP-server. I have experimented connecting to an Exchange server and the POP-server provided by the webmail provider www.gmx.de. I have not been able to make it work with Gmail’s POP-server yet. There is an almost infinite number of combinations of the mail-clients and message formats and I have been able to test only a few. The configuration dialog is shown in Figure 4.
Figure 4 : Configuration dialog
I have successfully tested sending Urdu emails to Hotmail, Yahoo and Gmail accounts. Figures 5,6 & 7 respectively show the screenshots of Hotmail, Gmail and Yahoo mail with Urdu mail messages. This text is taken from some article at BBC’s Urdu website.
Figure 5 : Urdu message in Hotmail
Figure 6 : Urdu message in Gmail
Figure 7 : Urdu message in Yahoo Mail
It must be noted that you may or may not be able to freely choose the sender’s email address. For example I was able to specify any sender address I liked when sending email through an Exchange server but I was only able to send email through GMX after I specified my correct GMX-address. It is also interesting to note that when sending Urdu email this way to a Gmail-account, the email is likely to land into the spam-mail folder. Watch out for that!
Posting to Yahoo and Google Groups
One of my goals was to enable the members of Yahoo- and Google-groups to post in Urdu. This is possible by sending html-mails to the groups’ email addresses. The key to participating in a particular discussion is its title which must be specified as the subject of the sent mail. Following are the discussion groups that I set up for my experimentation:
Yahoo UrduProjects Group:
URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/urduprojects/
Post message: urduprojects@yahoogroups.com
Figure 8 : Urdu post in Yahoo Group
Google UrduProjects Group:
URL : http://groups-beta.google.com/group/urduprojects
Post message: urduprojects@googlegroups.com
Figure 9 : Urdu post in Google Group
It can be seen from the above images that the Urdu text is displayed better in the Google group. The text in Figures 8 & 9 was copied from a post in Danial’s blog.
Note: If you see garbage instead of Urdu text, change the default encoding of your browser to Unicode (UTF-8).
I have developed the UrduEditor application using MFC and Visual C++ 6.0. I did not use Visual C++.NET because I wanted to avoid unnecessary dependencies that would prevent the program from running on Windows 98 systems. Asif has reported that the programs compiles fine with Visual C++.NET. I may gradually switch to Visual C++.NET for future development. The source code also presents an example of using Unicode with MFC. I have extended the MFC edit controls for editing of the Urdu text. I may at some later point create an MFC extension library useful for developing Urdu based applications.
A lot of work still remains to be done. I stay committed to the development of following features:
An on screen keyboard for helping in the entry of Urdu text.
Changing fonts and point sizes
More options for different html-templates
Dialog boxes for displaying and copying different types of html outputs
A toolbar for inserting diacritics
The ideas used in the development of the UrduEditor application can also be used in other directions. It is possible to develop a library of ActiveX controls to allow Visual Basic programmers to write Urdu based applications. The keyboard handling in the UrduEditor application can be made generic in order to support multiple keyboard layouts. This would make capable of editing text in local languages e.g. Sindhi, Balochi and Pashto. In fact I am already eying the keyboard layout format used in Unipad. I can accomplish this task only if I get enough support from people having interest in it.
You can download the UrduEditor application and its source code from the following links.
Updated: Dowload UrduEditor with source code
Your feedback is essential for the further development and improvement of the UrduEditor application. You can either post a comment on this blog or you can send a post to the above mentioned Yahoo or Google groups for your feedback.
- CSS and Email, Kissing in a Tree by Mark Wyner, http://www.alistapart.com/articles/cssemail/
- HTML Email and Using Style by Elizabeth Davies, http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=StyleInEmail
- Adding Unicode support to an MFC-generated application in Visual C++ 6.0, http://www.differentpla.net/node/view/135
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A helper class for reading, writing and appending to/from Unicode text files by PEK, http://www.codeproject.com/file/textfiledocument.asp
- OfficeXP look and feel Owner drawn menu with the Office XP visual style by Jean-Michel LE FOL, http://www.codeproject.com/menu/menuxp2.asp
- An MFC class to encapsulate the SMTP protocol http://www.naughter.com/smtp.html
- Customizing the Common Find/Replace Dialog by Kalai Kandasamy, http://www.codeproject.com/richedit/customfind.asp
- Microsoft Developers Network (MSDN), http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp
Tags: Urdu Editor, Urdu Software
April 22nd, 2005 at 6:17 pm
Urdu Editor
Since a long time we needed an open source software to create, edit and save Urdu utf-8 files. Windows XP and 2000 series has Urdu support available but still there are people using other windows, mac and Linux. Even some XP and 2000 users were unable …
April 23rd, 2005 at 7:05 pm
Nabeel: Great job.
April 23rd, 2005 at 11:48 pm
That Realy Great Great work! by nabeel
April 25th, 2005 at 2:30 am
Zabardast. All thumbs up. Nabeel has an undying skills of making others (at least me) feel like idiots but on a positive note, it’s a call for others to join in and further progress with the development… Right now, I can’t download it for whatever reason. I have a quick suggestion: I can happily mirror the file(s) at my singapore based host ICDSoft for alternative downloads.
On a side note, I have just secretly set up a WP installation and trying to see why do we have to complicate writing urdu comments with code like % ur ur or whatever… I am not good at programming stuff but I think it ought to be fairly simple, very simple in fact something like Press Urdu and it’d only add p class=urduText and that’s it. Because despite the noteworthy efforts of this group of people, I still believe it needs to be pushed further for a common blogger and More Importantly any website owner. Why restricts things to blogs whereas there are many website designers who are reluctant to try Unicode based apps. just because they don’t have enough feedback as to how stable the selection of unicode based app. would be…
Overall, great effort. Waiting for link to work :$
April 25th, 2005 at 2:42 am
I am also having problems downloading the setup file but the source is ok.
Ejaz:
That is definitely not user friendly. I am working on Javascript for language-specific quicktags (basically buttons you can press to insert the appropriate code like
<p class="urdu" xml:lang="urdu">etc.)April 25th, 2005 at 3:35 am
Everybody : Thank you very much for your appreciation
Ejaz: I think the problem lies with the limit on the volume of data transfer imposed by Geocities. In fact it will be a favour for all of us if you could mirror the download. Just tell us about the download link. By the way, the download in the Yahoo UrduProjects group is still working.
I think that you have to make either Urdu or English the primary language for your comments box. If you use the Urdu Webpad for your comments box, Urdu will be default.
April 26th, 2005 at 1:47 pm
Simply WonderFull, remarkable, marverllous and Great Work. Nabeel has made my difficult very easy. Now I can kick out WinXP and can have Win98 in my pc.
WELDONE NABEEL
May ALLAH Bless you
April 27th, 2005 at 9:23 am
Hi.. awesome work… just cant praise enuf…
But unfortunately, i am having trouble running it
It installs fine and all is done. I open the UrduEditor, but after that whatever i type, it is not joining the words.. like if i type ‘K’ and then ‘A’ and then ‘M’, without spaces, then it is supposed to join the alphabets.. but its not joining them
See the screenshot of my problem here:
http://www.geocities.com/apnakamran/my_error.html
I’ll be visiting your blog again.. so pleaaaaase post the answer here sir…
Thanks a million…
Allah aap ko khush rakhey…u hav GPled ur code so u r a kind man
Kamran.
April 27th, 2005 at 9:30 am
Kamran: Some other users have registered the same problem and I have also called upon everybody to look into it. I hope we remove the problem soon. By the way you can try compiling the code if you want to. It should compile with Visual C++ 6.0 or Visual C++.NET. With Visual C++ 6.0 you need to have the Vusal C++’s unicode support dlls installed.
April 29th, 2005 at 11:35 am
Urdu Domain Poll
We are thinking of getting a separate domain for all the Urdu-related stuff we are doing. Help us decide on a domain name by voting for your choice.
April 29th, 2005 at 4:04 pm
Urdu Domain Poll
We are thinking of getting a separate domain for all the Urdu-related stuff we are doing. Help us decide the domain name by voting for your choice.
May 6th, 2005 at 3:46 pm
hi i am student of MCS how i can make the urdu Editor and what is unicode plz reply. i am waitng
thnks
May 8th, 2005 at 7:00 pm
UrduEditor Letter Joining Problem
Some Windows XP users have been having the problem with UrduEditor that it does not properly join words. The solution is to properly configure the support for right-to-left languages in Windows XP. This is done as follows: Open Control Panel,...
May 12th, 2005 at 12:00 pm
I would reckon http://www.اردو.com
prposed domain name for all urdu stuff.
May 28th, 2005 at 5:24 am
Urdu Editor Lite
I released UrduEditor some time ago. Unfortunately it does not work on Windows 98. I did not realize at that time that right-to-left support needs to be installed in order for UrduEditor to work properly and this support is not…
June 23rd, 2005 at 4:18 pm
HI,
I was wodnering if some one can help. im trying to get urdu fonts to show up in PHP. Im having massive problems. The urdu is being passed via XML. but when it get to viewing it in php all i see is ???. i have tried all the utf-8 settings but still no luck. i apologise if this is the wrong place to post
July 10th, 2005 at 1:13 pm
Hello… how can i write urdu easily… could not find any better editor so far… i have tried many editors but not satisfied….
September 3rd, 2005 at 1:38 pm
just downloaded your software ,pls guide me the settings which i have to provide
in the configuration dialog.
anticipating your reply as soon as possible.
thankingly.
Ateeq
September 4th, 2005 at 6:26 am
Ateeq: The settings in the configuration dialog are similar to the email client settings if you use an email account from your internet service provider. Actually you have to provide the name of a mail (SMTP) server and and an account name. If you do not have an email account from your internet service provider, you can use any of the freely available mail servers on the internet. You will have to create an account first.
Unfortunately Yahoo and Hotmail do not allow free POP-access. I use an account with http://www.gmx.de. This is a free web mail service. You may have some problem registering with gmx since the website is in German. If you successfully register with gmx, you can anter its mail server’s name i.e mail.gmx.de in the configuration dialog alongwith your account name and password. You can use the authentication method as shown in the figure.
You may find other alternatives too. Although Gmail also provides free POP-access, its is accessed through secure socket which is still not supported in UrduEditor.
Regards
October 30th, 2005 at 11:07 am
اسلام علیکم۔۔ میں صرف یہ کہ سکتا ہوں کہ مجھے بس صرف اسی کی تلاش تھی۔۔
October 31st, 2005 at 11:01 am
مصور آفریدی، آپ اگر پشتو جانتے ہیں تو ذرا اردو اوپن پیڈ پر نظر ڈالیے، کیا اس میں پشتو کی بورڈ ٹھیک ہے؟
October 31st, 2005 at 7:15 pm
Dear Nabeel,.. Its like a Deam Software,... for me…
i have register version of new inpage 2.92 …..... for for me,... urdu open pad is much batter from that,...
Pashtoo can easily be written in it,... i checked …........ 100% Working result,....
Thanks for this Great and Unique software,.
May You Succeed…......
Musawer Khan Afridi
October 31st, 2005 at 7:24 pm
Dear Nabeel,...your urdu open Pad is like a dream software in the world of urdu uni code…..
I have also a Register Version of INPAGE 2.92,... but your urdu open pad is much batter from that,....
Pashto can easily be written.. in it…............without any difficultulty,.............
i chacked…............ result 100%%%%
Thanks once again….........for this great ….....and unique software…....
Hope you’ll continue you good work …....for the development of urdu language…..
May You succeed…..
Be Happy always,...........
ALLAH HAFIZ
November 8th, 2005 at 3:18 pm
I want to donload this software.
November 9th, 2005 at 3:43 am
Adnan: There is a download link available at the end of the article and I think it is working.
December 11th, 2005 at 7:50 pm
hi how come when u download the source code for the editor it doest’t compile? could u give me ur feed back on this thanks.
December 12th, 2005 at 9:32 am
Khush: can you tell me what compile or link errors are you getting?
December 20th, 2005 at 2:32 pm
the complie error i am get is LINK : fatal error LNK1104: cannot open file “Secur32.lib”
December 20th, 2005 at 3:37 pm
Khush: You need the Microsoft Platform SDK in order to link to secur32.lib.
January 23rd, 2006 at 3:30 am
I Need Urdu editor plese
March 23rd, 2006 at 5:52 pm
اسلام علیکم
Urdu Editor اردو کا بہترین سوفٹ ویر ہے۔
آپ سب کا شکریہ
April 23rd, 2006 at 1:08 pm
اس وقت میں یہ سافٹ ویر ڈون لوڈ کر رھا ہوں اور استعمال کرنے کے بعد اپنی رائے کے بارے میں مطلع کروں گا۔۔۔۔۔امتیاز
April 24th, 2006 at 10:54 am
Hello,
It was very hard to find something to write Urdu here in Japan but your this tiny soft is helping. But sometimes I get problem. I want to type SATH but it never type see ساتھہ . How can I type correctly?
Please reply.
Thanks
April 28th, 2006 at 5:16 am
kaash hum urdu main aasani se mail kar sakty…............wallah
April 28th, 2006 at 1:49 pm
Ari, please consult the following post for the letter joining problem:
http://www.urduweb.org/blog/2005/05/33/
April 28th, 2006 at 1:51 pm
Irfan: Have a look at the following article, this might help:
http://www.urduweb.org/wiki/UrduEmail
July 10th, 2006 at 2:17 pm
hello,
you have a very nice and informative blog. i too want to have a blog in urdu. can you help from where can i start?bloggger doesn’t works with me as i already have 2 blogs , i was wondering if you could tell me how i can make an urdu blog for myself, and how to upload posts in urdu?waiting for your reply. thanking you in anticipation.
July 11th, 2006 at 9:25 am
afshan: It is easy to set up an Urdu blog on blogger.com. Why doesn’t it work for you? All you need to do is to adapt a blogger.com template for correctly displaying Urdu. I can send you one such adapted template if you want to.
This blog is based on WordPress and you would need a web host account to set up a WordPress blog.
August 8th, 2006 at 10:20 am
Well, I’m using only this software for writing urdu since you uploaded it
I was wondering if its link is given somewhere in urduweb’s wiki or projects???
Its a delight rather a treat for every urdu lover.
August 8th, 2006 at 3:57 pm
Asma: Thank you. In fact I have uploaded all the software that I have written to urduweb. I was just too lazy to update the links in my posts. Here is the new location. Please keep a tab on it for any software released on urduweb.
August 8th, 2006 at 3:59 pm
اسماء: یہاں دیکھیں۔
August 12th, 2006 at 10:21 pm
Extremely good…works really fine
August 19th, 2006 at 1:01 am
Asalam o Alaikum Nabeel & Rest of the technical and supportive team contributing to this wonderful too.
First of all i would like to say a BIG THANKS to all of you, specially by providing such a useful tool free of cost to all urdu lovers, and let me tell you this one tool is making the history, I haven’t seen many forums in urdu but now every second community is using urdu forum. Realy Great stuff.
I have seen this integrated in IPB forums, phpBB forums, but haven’t seen it yet on vBulletin forum, I am using vBulletin for last couple of years and would like to stick with this, if anyone already integrated it with vBulletin please do let me know How To? or if someone is willing to work on this I am willing to provide a test instance of vBulletin 6.x for experiment, please contact me @ basithabib@gmail.com.
Many Thanks & Kind Regards,
Basit
October 4th, 2006 at 8:46 pm
Nabeel, why not just create a project on sourceforge and upload/maintain there.
October 5th, 2006 at 10:49 am
Hyder: Thanks for your suggestion. Actually we are maintaining a subversion based source code repository ourselves on urduweb. I find it a bit hectic to maintain a project on more than one sites.
March 31st, 2007 at 11:40 am
Aslamualeikum,
I need an in page urdu composing software complete that could not make problem on my xp window. How?
April 1st, 2007 at 11:20 am
%[ur] Its a very good approach
April 4th, 2007 at 10:02 am
main aik gareeb larka hoon, lakin computer ka bohot shouq hai is waja se mujhe urdu editor ka software chahiye, main nay urdu editor download kar k run kiya magar wo trial software hai main urdu editor puchase nahin kar sakta is liye koi mujhe bataye ga ka main kiya karoon full software k liye bari meherbaani hogi aap logon ki.
April 4th, 2007 at 10:03 am
main aik gareeb larka hoon, lakin computer ka bohot shouq hai is waja se mujhe urdu editor ka software chahiye, main nay urdu editor download kar k run kiya magar wo trial software hai main urdu editor puchase nahin kar sakta is liye koi mujhe bataye ga ka main kiya karoon full software k liye bari meherbaani hogi aap logon ki. mera email address ghazi786@hotmail.com hai plz reply karein main intezaar karonga
May 24th, 2007 at 5:41 pm
please
June 6th, 2007 at 9:44 pm
I am unable to figure out how to use this. The words have suddenly started going left to right instead of right to left. So if I wanted to write “form” (in urdu) the “aliph” comes BEFORE the “fay” when I type it. My bigger worry is how to join the text. I would love to have the urdu keyboard it would make guessing things easier (I hope, but I dont know). I am also a software engineer but I have mostly done java/ j2ee/ web related stuff. How can I help?
So if anyone knows the answers to the above please email me at : atharshiraz AT g m a il DOT c o m
June 21st, 2007 at 5:16 pm
Hello! Good Site! Thanks you! hpsrmnmpuwm
July 26th, 2007 at 9:36 pm
Salam Nabeel bhai,
Aap ka zikar sona tha, aaj aap ka kaam bhee dheek liya!!
I want to know that whether we can use this webpad as a javascript rich text editor or not… I m willing to give some time(i.e atmost six months) to help you achieve this.
Give me some useful links to guide me.
Regards,
Moeen
August 6th, 2007 at 12:01 pm
Asalamoalykum friends
I am havg troule downloadig UrduEditor. The link is not working. I am also looking for an urdu rte editor for my urdu forum which i am planing to develop. I also downloaded the javascript based software for converting text areas to urdu editors but I need some WYSIWYG urdu editor. I also developed an urdu editor in Java, this is my firist work in java. You ca download it at http://www.murreeonline.com/danish_satti/projects/Urdu_Word_Processor.zip But it will require jdk1.5 to run.
At the end please somebody tell me correct url of urdy editor and also some informatio about urdu rte based on JavaScript
August 22nd, 2007 at 10:03 am
Sir plz contact me
August 30th, 2007 at 11:55 am
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September 22nd, 2007 at 5:29 pm
really nice work,there is not a single free urdu editor outhere.keep up the good work.
November 28th, 2007 at 3:43 am
Hi,
I have been working with urdu language for the past 11 years. I have used DOS programs to the latest Indesign and plus softwares to reach the client’s expectations.
But now I am facing a HUGE problem working with .xml files. The client has given us the English version of the xml files to be translated into Urdu and hindi languages. The problem we are facing is that while typing, some of the coding gets deleted or overtyped, resulting in the malfunctioning of the original xml format.
I have tried “MSOffice 2003 XML Editor”, but it is the third grade software I have ever seen. We have also tried the “XLIFF Translation Editor”, The software is very good as it allows to overtype the text only without displaying any of the coding of the xml file. but inspite of being so good it replaces some of the original coding of the xml files, which in turn gets an error.
Sir can you suggest me to provide a software or any other procedure to type urdu language in xml files with ease and without hampering any of the coding from the original xml files.
I Hope for a valuable and helpful suggestion/solution from yours side as soon as possible. Thanks and regards.
December 6th, 2007 at 7:48 am
Nabeel: You said in your reply that to set up an urdu blog all i have to do is…”All you need to do is to adapt a blogger.com template for correctly displaying Urdu. I can send you one such adapted template if you want to.”
I have also made an account at wordpress.com too. The files that i want to upload are in inpage is it possible that i directly cope file from inpage and post in teh blog or do i need anything else to be downloaded?You also suggested to give me an adapted template. I would be very grateful if you forward me the adapted template, be it for blogger or wordpress.thank you.God Bless
December 7th, 2007 at 8:27 am
I want to down load urdu software
December 17th, 2007 at 11:15 pm
I tried to downloat Urdu Editor by clicking on the link given above. But it says the web page can not be found.
January 12th, 2008 at 4:23 pm
Thank You
May nay iss website say boht kuch seekha.
April 18th, 2008 at 2:54 pm
Thank You for urdu editing downloading link.
Veryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy Good Website.
August 16th, 2008 at 10:03 am
Dear Nabeel,
First of all, let me congratulate you on putting together this excellent and ‘SIMPLE’ application. BIG Bravo, It is comprehensive, beautiful and it just simply works. We have been inspired from your work.
We are a small group of individuals residing in Saudi Arabia working in the field of media and advertising. Going through various negative news and events in Pakistan, we have decided to CHANGE opinions about Pakistan CREATIVELY by putting some efforts in promoting together the following forum (as a start) at http://pakopinions.forumgogo.com while working on a bigger portal.
the following domains have been registered for this purpose:
http://www.pakistanopinions.com
http://www.pakopinions.com
http://www.pakopinion.com
the forum at http://pakopinions.forumgogo.com is currently at a free hosting area that does not allow us to post ads, however, we have placed a link to your website in the links section as a gesture. However, once our portal will be ready, we can discuss other ideas.
We were wondering how to include some URDU text in the website, and thanks to your great software for helping us out. our next task is to somehow configure a purely URDU forum, we will be using PHPBB on the site. (by the way I am not from any programming background) if you can jump in, it would be great.
We will highly appreciate your initial opinions about the forum and its current content. you can also start posting if you like.
http://pakopinions.forumgogo.com
looking forward to hearing from you soon.
Thanks and best wishes
Danish Hussain
danish.hussain@pakopinions.com